Fortunately, historians have, as CKR wrote ” the data”. What they need to be of more use in foreign policy discussions is a change of cognitive perspective. Historians also need to be utilized with some balance in terms of field specialty. CKR wrote:
“The historical view develops a sympathy with people in past times not unlike that required for dealing with other countries and other cultures. They didn’t use words exactly the way we do. Their concepts were different: look at how the definitions of liberalism and conservatism have changed in America since the late 19th century, although not so much in Europe. And their expectations of what made the good life were different. Ask anyone who grew up in the fifties, or even the sixties or seventies.
Unfortunately, politics can make use of history while ignoring or even suppressing this sympathy. Don’t like nuclear weapons? The US never should have dropped the bombs on Japan. Never mind the hundreds of thousands of US deaths, the apparent will of the Japanese to fight up to and beyond an invasion of their islands. Need a club to beat the left? That was some giveaway at Yalta, equivalent to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Never mind that the Soviets already held the territories, the war weariness, the difficulty of driving the Soviets back.”
It isn’t always overt politicization, though that certainly plays a role in public debates over policy. Unbalanced historical perspectives alone can create a lacuna for policy makers without regard to ideology. Collounsbury made remarks to this effect in the comments section of my first post in regards to the historical expertise of Bernard Lewis. Collounsbury has ( if I recall correctly) a degree in history, but more importantly, he is a MENA specialist and is thus a modernist. To him, the limitations of relying on Lewis, an Ottomanist and medievalist, for advice about ME policy was obvious though it would not have been so to a non-specialist( Collounsbury has critiqued the strengths and weaknesses of Lewis at length here). The answer is simply drawing upon a representative range of specialists to exchange views instead of just one or two so that a check and balance exists in terms of perspective.
Though this is supposed to be a rebuttal I am finding myself in agreement with much of what CKR has to say, despite our differing political views and my more hawkish orientation on foreign policy questions. A good outcome, I believe, for Right-Left dialogues of this kind. I’ll have to sharpen my partisan saw for the second rebuttal, just to keep things interesting.
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collounsbury:
June 20th, 2005 at 10:39 am
Well, I had forgotten I wrote that. Why I approach being reasonable.
Ah yes, I do have a degree in history, but of course my main degree, graduate, is in economics and finance. (At least it’s not Poli Sci which I despise)
Some thoughts.
First, looking back at my comments, I recall my dislike for Pipes, Kramer et al’s little neo Anti Comm jihad. That springs further to mind. Pipes and his brand if idiotic posturing has no place. Both the Uber Israel patriots are playing the worst kind of politics.
Second, I agree on your note re paralysis by analysis. True of everything really. I can analyze the hell out of a project here, but at some point the added value of the marginal piece of data is probably less than the effort required to get there. Same thing with fancy models in this environment which tend to give one a false sense of certainty, but in reality depend on a whole slew of dodgey assumptions. But dodgey assumptions one has to make. Sadly, the fancier the model, the more one tends to buy into one’s assumptions.
(Actually thinking of the Castles in the Sky that Hedge Funds are building, this could be said of developed markets to an extent as well).
In the end I am of the opinion that when working in a “dirty data” enviro, one is best served by quick and simple rule of thumb models and quick and dirty analysis, because quite simply the added analytical artillery of the “latest stuff” usually doesn’t have the raw material or ammunition to work with, at least properly. Of course, one should be aware of the dodginess of the assumptions and not get too bought in. See Iraq.
Hmm, apologies for the Friedman like mixed metaphors. At least mine are not quite so stupid.
mark:
June 21st, 2005 at 4:53 am
Hi Col-
Sorry for the delay in replying, first some automotive problems today then ISP difficulties.
Re: Pipes/Kramer
Are they really equivalent ? I’m not asking that sarcastically. The Saidist types invited Kramer to speak at one of their big MESA-conference this year which is something I have trouble imagining them doing with Daniel Pipes.
Re: Certainty
You put your finger right on the diminishing returns aspect operating here.
Chasing certainty within a model beyond a certain point seems to be a good way to get completely off track, i have to agree. The CIA used to be big on Bayesian probability which turned out to be more accurate a predictor on average than an individual area expert’s best intuitive average ( unfortunately I’m not sure how the Bayesian method stacked up against all of an area’s experts predictions averaged together – now that would be interesting to know !)but you had to keep the variables to a minimum. And as you pointed out – a lot of this kind of analysis can be time-sensitive whether you are dealing with the market or intelligence.
Scientific American did a piece recently on ” Deep Uncertainty” computer modelling techniques that have a lot of promise because they had ” flexibility” built into the model itself. Seemed promising but a bit above my head.
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