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Wolf Pangloss has a series of interesting posts on 4GW and information operations that readers might care to consider in light of the discussion that has ensued in the comments section of the post on the strategic analysis of Fabius Maximus. Wolf’s posts are:

Democracies at 4GWar

4GW Jihad and the role of the World Media

Conflict Map of the Counterjihad

Media Cheerleaders for Despair

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  1. Fabius Maximus Says:

    Thanks for posting the links to this. Truly bizarre, but he has quite an imagination. Nice writing style, too.

    This is how the flames of war are fanned. Looking back in time, it’s amazing how often the disputes for which so many died are impossible to even see let alone understand.

  2. Pangloss Says:

    I’m honored to be mentioned only a day after fabius, and then by the similarly pseudonymous (to myself) him/her/it.

  3. Fabius Maximus Says:

    But you have not only a better pseudonymn, but a neat avatar!

    I would be very interested in your thoughts on The Long War, since we appear to have different perspectives on it. Here is part one, a summary.
    http://www.defense-and-society.org/fabius/long_war_I.htm

    Archive, to see the series:
    http://www.defense-and-society.org/fabius/fabius_archive.htm

    If you prefer, I can send you a pdf of the full thing (the other parts are briefs) rather than wading thru the links.

  4. Pangloss Says:

    Better? Avatars are the work of a moment for those with even minimal art training.

    No need to send the PDF. I’ll read from the archive and cogitate.

    I hope you don’t mind that I indulged in some navel-gazing and mentioned this post at my site.

    The comments consist of a dispute between those who appear to use 4GW theory in a pro-Iraq-war way and those who appear to use 4GW theory in an anti-Iraq-war way. I see myself as neither. Instead, I’m one of those whose intent is to use the theoretical framework to influence those who can be influenced when they are ready (if not before). This is not restricted to the military itself, to military thinkers (Fabius Maximus‘ audience), or to the enemy and the population that supports the enemy in this war, but also to the population around us and its institutions. We in the West have (at least in public) lost touch with our moral and martial traditions, banished from the common discourse by the nihilism of multiculturalism within the academy, the courts, and media. Whether we, the sovereign people of the west, choose to go to war or not, we must clear the multicultural fog from our perceptors before we make that choice.

  5. Fabius Maximus Says:

    “I hope you don’t mind that I indulged..”

    Certainly not! I believe there is too little analysis of these issues on the web. Lots and lots of posts expressing how people feel about these things, however.

    I’m told that this is how schools teach writing these days. Emphasis on self-expression, little attention to rational analysis.

  6. Larry Dunbar Says:

    “I’m told that this is how schools teach writing these days. Emphasis on self-expression, little attention to rational analysis.”

    FM,
    Remind me not to piss you off, ZING!

  7. Pangloss Says:

    Response posted to the first Long War article here.


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