{"id":11729,"date":"2012-07-24T18:53:37","date_gmt":"2012-07-24T18:53:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=11729"},"modified":"2012-07-24T18:53:37","modified_gmt":"2012-07-24T18:53:37","slug":"a-question-re-hasan-and-awlaki","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=11729","title":{"rendered":"A question re Hasan and Awlaki"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[ by <strong>Charles Cameron<\/strong> &#8212; revisiting the question of Maj. Nidal Hasan ]<br \/>\n.<\/p>\n<p><div id=\"attachment_11733\" style=\"width: 653px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/Hasan-to-Awlaki.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-11733\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/Hasan-to-Awlaki.png\" alt=\"\" title=\"Hasan to Awlaki\" width=\"643\" height=\"587\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11733\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/Hasan-to-Awlaki.png 643w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/Hasan-to-Awlaki-300x273.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 643px) 100vw, 643px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-11733\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">... above: Daveed&#039;s tweet today, Awlaki&#039;s email from Intelwire<\/p><\/div>.<\/p>\n<p>I was struck by one curious aspect to the question of what Maj. <strong>Nidal Hasan<\/strong> was up to at what point in his trajectory: the fact that as a psychiatrist, he was dealing with soldier patients returning from the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan who had doubts as to the religious legitimacy of killing fellow-Muslims in those wars. <\/p>\n<p>On the face of it, that&#8217;s a topic a psychiatrist who didn&#8217;t feel himself expert in his religion (&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/news.intelwire.com\/2012\/07\/the-following-e-mails-between-maj.html\">am a novice at this and would like reassurance<\/a>&#8220;) might wish to consult with clergy about, and the fact that &#8220;clergy&#8221; in this case was <strong>al-Awlaki<\/strong> shouldn&#8217;t be read back into the situation as confirming jihadist intent on Hasan&#8217;s part \u2013 Awlaki had been the imam of a Falls Church mosque where, according to <a href=\"http:\/\/www2.tbo.com\/news\/breaking-news\/2011\/sep\/30\/relief-anger-at-va-mosque-where-al-qaida-figure-pr-ar-261957\/\">one AP report<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Opinions varied on what kind of preacher al-Awlaki was when he served in Virginia. Most said they did not find him to be overtly political or radical.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As <a href=\"http:\/\/liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com\/2009\/12\/24\/source-radical-cleric-probably-killed\/#ixzz21ZAEkHd1\">another report<\/a> mentioned:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cBecause the content of the communications was explainable by his research and nothing else derogatory was found, the [investigators] concluded that Major Hasan was not involved in terrorist activities or terrorist planning,\u201d the FBI said in a statement issued days after the Ft. Hood shooting.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>I mentioned this issue of Hasan&#8217;s (potentially) legitimate professional concern for his patients in my commentary on Hasan&#8217;s slide show in <a href=\"http:\/\/smallwarsjournal.com\/jrnl\/art\/the-hasan-slide-presentation\">Small Wars Journal<\/a>, but I haven&#8217;t been following news reports closely and have no access in any case to what&#8217;s known in restricted intel circles &#8212; so my issue may already have been addressed with clarity somewhere &#8220;open source&#8221;, in which case I&#8217;d welcome a pointer or pointers, and closure.<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, I do feel a little like someone going for a rollercoaster ride on a Moebius strip: as I read it, the same evidence that reads prospectively as suggesting a concern to be able to counsel patients in distress reads retrospectively as suggesting the conflict is in Hasan&#8217;s own mind \u2013 and that he has in effect already resolved it and is turning to Awlaki as someone he is sure will confirm his intent.<\/p>\n<p>I understand that many of Hasan&#8217;s colleagues were dismayed at the time of his slide-point lecture and discussed their concerns that he was an extremist \u2013 but then there are not a few who imagine <strong>Huma Abedin<\/strong> is a closet <strong>Sayyid Qutb <\/strong>on far more slender grounds.   Hasan was clearly discussing a potential clash between Islamic and military duties, and his final slide was undoubtedly phrased to be provocative \u2013 but I still don&#8217;t know what his comments on it were, and how much different members of his audience may have read into it.<\/p>\n<p>It still seems plausible to me that the way Hasan&#8217;s mind turned involved three separable &#8220;colorations&#8221; of a developing line of thought, the first of them benign, the last fatal \u2013 from a concern with his patients, via a concern regarding his own position as a Muslim and a soldier, to his identification with Awlaki&#8217;s position and decision to take action resulting in the Ft Hood massacre.<\/p>\n<p>And as you know, <a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=11351\">mapping, gaming or simulating mental processes<\/a> at the level of thoughts, persuasions and decisions is a matter of keen interest to me.<\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>My question &#8212; for <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DaveedGR\">Daveed Gartenstein-Ross<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/news.intelwire.com\/2012\/07\/the-following-e-mails-between-maj.html\">JM Berger<\/a><\/strong> and others who have a better sense of the timeline and documentation that I \u2013 is whether this remains a plausible understanding, or whether it has long been conclusively disproven by more recently available evidence.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ by Charles Cameron &#8212; revisiting the question of Maj. Nidal Hasan ] . . I was struck by one curious aspect to the question of what Maj. Nidal Hasan was up to at what point in his trajectory: the fact that as a psychiatrist, he was dealing with soldier patients returning from the wars [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[526,770,483,753,210,436,162,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11729","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-charles-cameron","category-daveed-gartenstein-ross","category-extremists","category-islam","category-islamist","category-psychology","category-small-wars-journal","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11729","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=11729"}],"version-history":[{"count":37,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11729\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11768,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11729\/revisions\/11768"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=11729"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=11729"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=11729"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}