{"id":18356,"date":"2013-01-06T19:20:02","date_gmt":"2013-01-06T19:20:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=18356"},"modified":"2013-01-06T19:20:02","modified_gmt":"2013-01-06T19:20:02","slug":"2013-mahdism-update-i-duet-or-duel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=18356","title":{"rendered":"2013 Mahdism Update, I: duet or duel?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[ by <strong>Charles Cameron<\/strong> &#8212; comparative contemporary Turkish Mahdisms ]<br \/>\n.<\/p>\n<p> <div id=\"attachment_18362\" style=\"width: 660px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/yahya-mahdi.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-18362\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/yahya-mahdi.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"yahya mahdi\" width=\"650\" height=\"576\" class=\"size-full wp-image-18362\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/yahya-mahdi.jpg 650w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/yahya-mahdi-300x265.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-18362\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image from the Adnan Oktar \/ Harun Yahya site http:\/\/www.mahdinevershedsblood.com\/<\/p><\/div>.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s an intriguing paragraph today from <strong>Tim Furnish<\/strong>&#8216;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mahdiwatch.org\/2013.01.01_arch.html#1357430075253\">MahdiWatch<\/a> blog, as one prospective Mahdi candidate evaluates another: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Another Mahdi-related figure (sometimes seen as a forerunner, other times as a successor) is al-Qahtani.  Heretofore the most prominent such was Muhammad Abd Allah al-Qahtani (d. 1979), the putatative &#8220;mahdi&#8221; held up as inspiration for the abortive coup against the Saudis led by Juhayman al-Utaby in 1979.  Now, however, another-and, thankfully, more pacific-Qahtani has been identified: he is Fethullah G\u00fclen, the exiled-to-America neo-Sufi Turkish leader of a massive global charter school system  This is according to a man whom some consider to be the Mahdi himself,  Istanbul-based Adnan Oktar.  (And in fact it&#8217;s not overly cynical to observe that since Oktar and G\u00fclen are in many ways rivals for the mantle of the late Ottoman\/early Turkish Mahdist thinker Said Nursi (d. 1960), the former&#8217;s relegation of the latter to a supporting role is quite astute in Mahdist circles.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Both <strong>Adnan Oktar \/ Harun Yahya<\/strong> and <strong>Fethullah G\u00fclen<\/strong> are worth paying attention to as popular leaders who might well be treated as Mahdi by their devotees &#8212; much as the late Lubavitcher Rebbe <strong>Menachem Mendel Schneerson<\/strong> was considered the Messiah by some of his followers &#8212; though both of them seem to be of the opinion that the authentic Mahdi would not claim that title for himself.<\/p>\n<p>Both men, as I understand it, also make the claim that the Mahdi will be peaceable.  I don&#8217;t want to promise a more detailed account of the Mahdi-related writings of either one of them at this time, because the research effort would exceed my grasp &#8212; but for a quick glimpse, see the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mahdinevershedsblood.com\/\">Adnan Oktar page on the Mahdi illustrated above<\/a>, or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fethullahgulen.org\/recent-articles\/1941-the-messiah-and-the-mahdi.html\">this page on the Mahdi<\/a> from G\u00fclen.<\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s more interesting stuff in the rest of Furnish&#8217;s piece,  but that&#8217;s the paragraph that caught my attention and triggered this post.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ by Charles Cameron &#8212; comparative contemporary Turkish Mahdisms ] . . Here&#8217;s an intriguing paragraph today from Tim Furnish&#8216;s MahdiWatch blog, as one prospective Mahdi candidate evaluates another: Another Mahdi-related figure (sometimes seen as a forerunner, other times as a successor) is al-Qahtani. Heretofore the most prominent such was Muhammad Abd Allah al-Qahtani (d. 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