{"id":19353,"date":"2013-02-21T19:44:50","date_gmt":"2013-02-21T19:44:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=19353"},"modified":"2013-02-21T19:44:50","modified_gmt":"2013-02-21T19:44:50","slug":"miscik-2004-gerecht-2013","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=19353","title":{"rendered":"Miscik 2004, Gerecht 2013"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[ by <strong>Charles Cameron<\/strong> &#8212; on the exclusion of worldviews not consonant with grey suits and security clearances ]<br \/>\n.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/SPEC-miscik-gerecht.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/SPEC-miscik-gerecht.png\" alt=\"\" title=\"SPEC miscik gerecht\" width=\"585\" height=\"617\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-19354\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/SPEC-miscik-gerecht.png 585w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/SPEC-miscik-gerecht-284x300.png 284w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 585px) 100vw, 585px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>These two persons are likely being polite.<\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m wondering how any people at State or in the Agency or wherever know what it feels like to be one of the flagellants in Iran during Muharram, in Qom or Masshad perhaps&#8230; or at the Jamkaran mosque, and to believe the Mahdi is waiting close by in the wings&#8230; or to be in Afghanistan, Sunni, and expecting his army with black banners will sweep down on Jerusalem from Khorasan in accordance with hadith&#8230; or in Palestine, reliant on the hadith of the rocks and the trees, certain that Israel will soon fall&#8230; in Pakistan, listening to Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid and mentally preparing for the Ghazwa-e-Hind?<\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>I suppose I&#8217;ve been struggling to say this for years:<\/p>\n<p><em>The sanction for extremist violence, even to the point of death, is that the cause is just and right.  The sanction for messianic violence is that the cause is not only humanly just and right but divinely so &#8212; and final, for the entirety of the cosmos, for all Creation.  <\/em><\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sources:<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.globalsecurity.org\/intell\/library\/congress\/2004_hr\/040804-miscik.pdf\">Jami Miscik<\/a>, tesimony, House Intelligence Cttee<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.newrepublic.com\/article\/112367\/spy-sex-inside-randy-culture-cia\">Reuel Marc Gerecht<\/a>, Spooky Sex<\/p>\n<p>h\/t <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/nadabakos\/status\/304648040583688193\">Nada Bakos<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Further readings on messianisms:<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=2671&#038;wpmp_switcher=desktop#comment-6641\">Mahdi in the wings<\/a>, Iran<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=4322\">Khorasan, army with black banners<\/a>, Afghanistan<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=12213\">Hadith of the rocks and the trees<\/a>, Palestine<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=4460\">Ghazwa-e-Hind<\/a>, Pakistan<\/p>\n<p><strong>David Cook<\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Contemporary-Apocalyptic-Literature-Religion-Politics\/dp\/0815631952\">Contemporary Islamic Apocalyptic Literature<\/a><br \/>\n<strong>David Cook<\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Studies-Muslim-Apocalyptic-Antiquity-Early\/dp\/0878501428\/\">Studies in Islamic Apocalyptic<\/a><br \/>\n<strong>Timothy Furnish<\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Holiest-Wars-Islamic-Mahdis-Jihads\/dp\/0275983838\/\">Holiest Wars<\/a><br \/>\n<strong>Gershom Gorenberg<\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/End-Days-Fundamentalism-Struggle-Temple\/dp\/0195152050\/\">The End of Days<\/a><br \/>\n<strong>Anne-Marie Oliver &#038; Paul Steinberg<\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Road-Martyrs-Square-Journey-Suicide\/dp\/0195305590\/\">The Road to Martyr&#8217;s Square<\/a><br \/>\n<strong>Jean-Pierre Filiu<\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Apocalypse-Islam-Jean-Pierre-Filiu\/dp\/0520272641\/\">Apocalypse in Islam<\/a><br \/>\n<strong>Syed Saleem Shahzad<\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Inside-Al-Qaeda-Taliban-Beyond-Laden\/dp\/0745331025\/\">Inside al-Qaeda and the Taliban<\/a><br \/>\n<strong>Ali Soufan<\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Black-Banners-Inside-Against-al-Qaeda\/dp\/0393079422\/\">The Black Banners<\/a><br \/>\n<strong>Richard Landes<\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Heaven-Earth-Varieties-Millennial-Experience\/dp\/0199753598\/\">Heaven on Earth<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ by Charles Cameron &#8212; on the exclusion of worldviews not consonant with grey suits and security clearances ] . 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