{"id":22761,"date":"2013-05-28T05:02:36","date_gmt":"2013-05-28T05:02:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=22761"},"modified":"2013-05-30T06:20:53","modified_gmt":"2013-05-30T06:20:53","slug":"is-4gw-dead-point-counterpoint-and-commentary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=22761","title":{"rendered":"Is 4GW Dead?: Point-Counterpoint and Commentary"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_uQt7YfFGA3U\/S_IlrwMmanI\/AAAAAAAAGbQ\/IjK9WYBh5j4\/s1600\/gafe.bmp\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"395\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>4GW<\/strong> theory has always attracted overenthusiasts and \u00a0raging haters ever since the concept <a href=\"http:\/\/globalguerrillas.typepad.com\/lind\/the-changing-face-of-war-into-the-fourth-generation.html\">emerged way back in<strong> 1989<\/strong><\/a>, so debates about the merit of 4GW are nothing new; in fact, the arguments became so routine that they had largely gone sterile years ago. \u00a0After <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Thomas_Hammes\">T.X. Hammes<\/a><\/strong> published his excellent\u00a0<strong>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Sling-Stone-Century-Military-Classics\/dp\/0760324077\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1369544029&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=The+sling+and+the+stone\">The Sling and the Stone <\/a><\/strong>and <a href=\"http:\/\/globalguerrillas.typepad.com\/\"><strong>John Robb<\/strong> <\/a>\u00a0went to the next level with<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Brave-New-War-Terrorism-Globalization\/dp\/0470261951\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1369543986&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=brave+new+war\"><strong>\u00a0Brave New Wa<\/strong>r<\/a>\u00a0, it seemed that \u00a0little new was left to be said. In the late 2000&#8217;s, intellectual energies shifted to arguing the nuances and flaws of <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/smallwarsjournal.com\/jrnl\/art\/population-centric-coin-in-afghanistan\">Pop-centric COIN<\/a>,\u00a0<\/strong>which proved in time to be <a href=\"http:\/\/original.antiwar.com\/vlahos\/2009\/05\/06\/gian-gentile-exposing-counterfeit-coin\/\">even more bitter<\/a> than those <a href=\"http:\/\/mountainrunner.us\/2006\/02\/the_misleading_\/\">about<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil\/pubs\/display.cfm?PubID=632\">4GW<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/fabiusmaximus.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/06\/generations-of-war.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"605\" height=\"461\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Generations of War Theory Visualized by Chet Richards<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What is different recently is that the person taking the affirmative on the question &#8220;Is 4GW dead?&#8221; was <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dnipogo.org\/richards\/richards_bio.htm\">Dr. Chet Richards<\/a><\/strong>, who for years ran the premier but now defunct 4GW site, <strong>D-N-I.net<\/strong>, now archived <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/dnipogo.org\/\">here<\/a><\/strong> by the<strong>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.pogo.org\/\">Project on Government Oversight<\/a><\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pogo.org\/\">.<\/a> \u00a0Richards is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sonshi.com\/richards.html\">no Clausewitzian true-believer<\/a> or Big Army MBA with stars, but a former collaborator with <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_Boyd_(military_strategist)\"><strong>John Boyd<\/strong> <\/a>and a leading thinker of the 4GW school who had written <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Neither-Shall-Sword-Conflict-Years\/dp\/193201926X\/ref=pd_sim_b_1\">several<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/If-Can-Keep-Manifesto-Administration\/dp\/1932019316\/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1369544598&amp;sr=1-5&amp;keywords=chet+richards\">books <\/a>with that strategic theme.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, not a critic to be dismissed lightly. Here&#8217;s Chet:<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/slightlyeastofnew.com\/2013\/04\/19\/is-4gw-dead-2\/\">Is 4GW Dead?<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&#8230;.The first thing to note is that 4GW is an evolution from 3GW, which they equate to maneuver warfare and the blitzkrieg as defined in MCDP 1 and Boyd\u2019s\u00a0<em>Patterns of Conflict<\/em>. These are styles of warfare conducted by state armies against other state armies, although the paper does invoke the notion of transnational terrorists near the end.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>At some point in the late 1990s, the theory bifurcated. Bill Lind and Martin van Creveld began to emphasize the decline of the state and focus on transnational guerrilla organizations like al-Qa\u2019ida. Tom Barnett called this the \u201croad warrior\u201d model.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ndu.edu\/inss\/index.cfm?secID=38&amp;pageID=6&amp;type=section\" target=\"_blank\">\u00a0T. X. Hammes<\/a>, on the other hand, characterized 4GW as \u201cevolved insurgency\u201d and envisioned the techniques described in the paragraphs above as also useful for state-vs-state conflicts.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8230;.The 9\/11 attacks, by a transnational guerrilla movement, seemed to confirm 4GW in both of its forms. In the last few years, however, everything has gone quiet. Transnational insurgencies, \u201cglobal guerrillas\u201d as John Robb terms them, have not become a significant factor in geopolitics. \u201cContinuing irritation\u201d might best describe them, whose primary function seems to be upholding national security budgets in frightened western democracies. The state system has not\u00a0noticeably\u00a0weakened. So it might be fair at this point to conclude that although 4GW was a legitimate theory, well supported by logic and data, the world simply didn\u2019t develop along the lines it proposed.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>A\u00a0prominent critic of 4GW,\u00a0Antulio J. Echevarria,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil\/pubs\/display.cfm?pubID=632\" target=\"_blank\">may have been correct<\/a>:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>What we are really seeing in the war on terror, and the campaign in Iraq and elsewhere, is that the increased \u201cdispersion and democratization of technology, information, and finance\u201d brought about by globalization has given terrorist groups greater mobility and access worldwide. At this point, globalization seems to aid the nonstate actor more than the state, but states still play a central role in the support or defeat of terrorist groups or insurgencies.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Why? I\u2019ll offer this hypothesis, that the primary reason warfare did not evolve a fourth generation is that it didn\u2019t live long enough. The opening of Sir Rupert Smith\u2019s 2005 treatise,\u00a0<em>The Utility of Force<\/em>, states the case&#8230;.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Chet&#8217;s post spurred a sharp rebuttal from<strong> William Lind,<\/strong> &#8220;the Father of Fourth Generation Warfare&#8221;:<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/slightlyeastofnew.com\/2013\/05\/25\/bill-lind-4gw-is-alive-and-well\/#more-1612\">4GW is Alive and Well<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>So \u201cthe world simply didn\u2019t develop along the lines it (4GW) proposed\u201d? How do you say that in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Syriac_language\" target=\"_blank\">Syriac<\/a>?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>The basic error in\u00a0<a title=\"Is 4GW\u00a0dead?\" href=\"http:\/\/slightlyeastofnew.com\/2013\/04\/19\/is-4gw-dead-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">Chet Richards\u2019 piece<\/a>\u00a0of April 19, \u201cIs 4GW dead?\u201d is confusing the external and internal worlds. Internally, in the U.S. military and the larger defense and foreign policy establishment, 4GW is dead, as is maneuver warfare and increasingly any connection to the external world. The foreign policy types can only perceive a world of states, in which their job is to promote the Wilsonian\u00a0<em>nee<\/em>\u00a0Jacobin, follies of \u201cdemocracy\u201d and \u201cuniversal human rights.\u201d They are in fact, 4GW\u2019s allies, in that their demand for \u201cdemocracy\u201d undermines states, opening the door for more 4GW.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>In most of the world, democracy is not an option. The only real options are tyranny or anarchy, and when you work against tyranny, you are working for anarchy. The ghost of bin Laden sends his heartfelt thanks.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Third Generation doctrine has been abandoned,\u00a0<em>de facto<\/em>, if not\u00a0<em>de jure<\/em>, by the one service that embraced it, the U.S. Marine Corps. The others never gave it a glance. The U.S. military remains and will remain second generation until it disappears from sheer irrelevance coupled with high cost. That is coming much sooner than any of them think.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8230;.In many of these cases, including Egypt and Pakistan, the only element strong enough to hold the state together is the army. But the \u201cdemocracy\u201d crowd in Washington immediately threatens aid cut-offs, sanctions, etc., if the army acts. Again, the children now running America\u2019s foreign policy are 4GW\u2019s best allies.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Fourth generation war includes far more than just Islamic \u201cterrorism,\u201d and we see it gaining strength in areas far from the Middle East. Gangs have grown so powerful in Mexico, right on our border, that I predict the state will soon have to make deals with them, as the PRI has done in the past. Invasion by immigrants who do not acculturate is a powerful form of 4GW, more powerful than any terrorism, and that is occurring on a north-south basis (except Australia) literally around the world. Remember, most of the barbarians did not invade the Roman Empire to destroy it. They just wanted to move in. In fact, most were invited in. Sound familiar?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>What should concern us most is precisely the disconnect between the internal and external worlds. Externally, 4GW is flourishing, while internally, in the US government and military, it does not exist. This is the kind of chasm into which empires can disappear&#8230;.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Fabius Maximus<\/strong> &#8211; who is a both a pseudonymous\u00a0blogger and a group blog, also responded:<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/fabiusmaximus.com\/2013\/05\/25\/4gw-lind-50260\/#comments\">Update about one of the seldom-discussed trends shaping our world: 4GW<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>One of the interesting aspects of recent history is the coincidence of<\/strong><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>the collapse of discussion about 4GW in US military and geopolitical circles,<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>victories by insurgents using 4GW methods over foreign armies in Iraq and Afghanistan, &amp;<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>most important, the perhaps history-making victory by Bin Laden\u2019s al Qaeda.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><strong>The second point is important to us, but the usual outcome since WW2 (after which 4GW became the dominate form of military conflict; see section C below).\u00a0 The third point is the big one. Based on the available information, one of Bin Laden\u2019s goals was to destabilize the US political regime. Massive increase in military spending (using borrowed funds). The bill of rights being shredded (note yesterday\u2019s House vote to tear another strip from the 4th amendment). Our Courts holding show trials of terrorists \u2014 recruited, financed, supported by our security services. Torture and concentration camps.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8230;.We \u2014 the Second American Republic \u2014 have engaged in a war with nationalistic, Islamic forces using 4GW.\u00a0 So far we are losing.\u00a0 For various reasons we are unable to even perceive the nature of the threat. In DoD the hot dot is again procurement of high-tech weapons \u2014 new ships, the F-35, the\u00a0<a title=\"FM\" href=\"http:\/\/fabiusmaximus.com\/2012\/08\/18\/42156\/\" target=\"_blank\">hypersonic cruise missile<\/a>, etc.\u00a0 All useless in the wars we\u2019ve fought for the past 50 years, and probably in those of the next 50 years&#8230;..\u00a0<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A few comments.<\/p>\n<p>4GW has been heavily criticized &#8211; and accurately so &#8211; for making selective use of history, for unsupported maximal claims, for an excessively and ahistorically linear argument and for shifting or vaguely defined terms. Presented rigidly, it is relatively easy for critics to poke holes in it simply by playing &#8220;gotcha&#8221; (some of the criticism of 4GW did not get beyond ad hominem level garbage, but more intellectually serious detractors made very effective critiques of 4GW&#8217;s flaws).<\/p>\n<p>That said, there were a number of useful elements or insights in the body of 4GW writings that retain their utility and I think are worth recalling:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Whatever one thinks of 4GW as a whole, the school drew attention to the threat of non-state irregular warfare, failed states and the decline of state vs. state warfare and did so long before it was Pentagon conventional wisdom or trendy Beltway talking head spiels on Sunday morning news programs.<\/li>\n<li>While the state is not in decline everywhere in an absolute sense, it sure is failing in some places and has utterly collapsed elsewhere. Failed, failing and hollowed out states are nexus points for geopolitical problems and feature corruption, black globalization, insurgency, tribalism, terrorism, transnational criminal organizations and zones of humanitarian crisis. Whether we call these situations &#8220;irregular&#8221;, &#8220;hybrid&#8221;, &#8220;decentralized and polycentric&#8221;, &#8220;LIC&#8221;, &#8220;4GW&#8221; or everyone&#8217;s favorite, &#8220;complex&#8221; matters less than using force to achieve political aims becomes increasingly difficult as the interested parties and observers multiply. Some of the advice offered by the 4GW school regarding &#8220;the moral level of war&#8221;, de-escalation and the perils of fighting the weak in such a conflict environment are all to the good for reducing friction.<\/li>\n<li>The emphasis of the 4GW school on the perspective of the irregular fighter and their motivations not always fitting neatly within state-centric realpolitik, <a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=3603\">Galula-ish &#8220;Maoist Model&#8221; insurgency<\/a>, Clausewitzian best strategic practice or the Western intellectual tradition, were likewise ahead of their time and contrary to S.O.P. Even today, the effort to see the world through the eyes of our enemies is at best, anemic. Red teams are feared more than they are loved. Or utilized.<\/li>\n<li>The bitter criticism the 4GW school lodged of the American political elite being allergic to strategic thinking and ignorant of strategy in general was apt; that American strategy since the end of the Cold War has been exceedingly inept in thought and execution is one of the few points on which the most rabid 4GW advocate and diehard Clausewitzian can find themselves in full agreement.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The lessons of 4GW will still be relevant wherever men fight in the rubble of broken societies, atomized communities and failed states.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>4GW theory has always attracted overenthusiasts and \u00a0raging haters ever since the concept emerged way back in 1989, so debates about the merit of 4GW are nothing new; in fact, the arguments became so routine that they had largely gone sterile years ago. \u00a0After T.X. Hammes published his excellent\u00a0\u00a0The Sling and the Stone and John [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[232,360,310,262,216,46,305,337,604,20,126,760,309,60,132,198,574,178,425,331,51,759,78,207,199,336,338,303,465,39,367,823,270,372,380,187,66,381,11,10,127,530,605,211,13,312,18],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-22761","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-20th-century","category-21st-century","category-3-gen-gangs","category-4gw","category-academia","category-analytic","category-brave-new-war","category-chet-richards","category-clausewitzian","category-coin","category-counterinsurgency","category-counterterrorism","category-criminals","category-dni","category-dystopia","category-fabius-maximus","category-failed-state","category-geopolitics","category-government","category-hammes","category-history","category-hybrid-war","category-ideas","category-illegal-combatants","category-insurgency","category-intellectuals","category-john-boyd","category-john-robb","category-legitimacy","category-military","category-military-history","category-narcoterror","category-national-security","category-non-state-actors","category-organizations","category-politics","category-primary-loyalties","category-society","category-state-building","category-state-failure","category-strategy","category-strategy-and-war","category-tactics","category-terrorism","category-theory","category-tribes","category-war"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22761","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=22761"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22761\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":22956,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22761\/revisions\/22956"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=22761"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=22761"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=22761"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}