{"id":23542,"date":"2013-06-10T23:45:38","date_gmt":"2013-06-10T23:45:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=23542"},"modified":"2013-06-13T17:04:37","modified_gmt":"2013-06-13T17:04:37","slug":"dateline-june-5th-2012","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=23542","title":{"rendered":"Dateline, June 5th 2012"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[ by <strong>Charles Cameron<\/strong> &#8212; screengrabs from a very recently posted video, mostly Taliban with just a smidgeon of NSA ] <\/p>\n<p>[edited to add: <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=23542#comment-117736\">please see warning in comment below<\/a><\/strong>]<br \/>\n.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Georgia-We-Know-Your-Addresses.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Georgia-We-Know-Your-Addresses.png\" alt=\"\" title=\"Georgia We Know Your Addresses\" width=\"639\" height=\"358\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23543\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Georgia-We-Know-Your-Addresses.png 639w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Georgia-We-Know-Your-Addresses-300x168.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 639px) 100vw, 639px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Scary, hunh? Yeah?<\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>No, this is not from a <strong>NSA \/ Prism<\/strong> video &#8212; I&#8217;ll have just a little more on that topic later.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Georgia-We-Know-Your-Relatives1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Georgia-We-Know-Your-Relatives1.png\" alt=\"\" title=\"Georgia We Know Your Relatives\" width=\"448\" height=\"244\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23560\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Georgia-We-Know-Your-Relatives1.png 448w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Georgia-We-Know-Your-Relatives1-300x163.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 448px) 100vw, 448px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Nor is it from your local <em>mafiosi<\/em>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>In fact, it&#8217;s from the <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Hdty6SFNSP8\">Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan<\/a><\/strong>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/voice-of-jihad1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/voice-of-jihad1.png\" alt=\"\" title=\"voice of jihad\" width=\"448\" height=\"246\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23561\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/voice-of-jihad1.png 448w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/voice-of-jihad1-300x164.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 448px) 100vw, 448px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>i.e the <strong>Afghan Taliban<\/strong>.  <\/p>\n<p>And it&#8217;s addressed to <strong>Saakashvili<\/strong> and the people of <strong>Georgia<\/strong> (FSU), telling them:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/we-will-come1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/we-will-come1.png\" alt=\"\" title=\"we will come\" width=\"450\" height=\"241\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23562\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/we-will-come1.png 450w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/we-will-come1-300x160.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/to-georgia1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/to-georgia1.png\" alt=\"\" title=\"to georgia\" width=\"451\" height=\"214\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23563\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/to-georgia1.png 451w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/to-georgia1-300x142.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 451px) 100vw, 451px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>and:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/we-will-revenge1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/we-will-revenge1.png\" alt=\"\" title=\"we will revenge\" width=\"451\" height=\"213\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23564\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/we-will-revenge1.png 451w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/we-will-revenge1-300x141.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 451px) 100vw, 451px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>What interests me here is this: I tend to think of the Islamic Emirate as mainly Afghanistan-centric, so viewing this video I wondered whether they&#8217;ve announced similar intent to raid or attack other nations.  <strong>Alex Strick van Linschoten<\/strong> responded to my query as to whether he&#8217;d seen this sort of message before:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hipbonegamer\">hipbonegamer<\/a> a few instances, but always hyperbole, and often tied to commanders (like the Dadullah brothers) who are unrepresentative.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Alex Strick v L (@strickvl) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/strickvl\/status\/343770987495571457\">June 9, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He also pointed me to his book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/An-Enemy-Created-Taliban-Al-Afghanistan\/dp\/0199325251\">An Enemy We Created: The Myth of the Taliban-Al Qaeda Merger in Afghanistan<\/a>, where (p. 277 in my uncorrected proof) we read:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It was around this time that Dadullah started to make increasingly strident statements of support for a global jihad, one in which attacks in Europe and the United States were not to be ruled out.101 Dadullah was, in contrast to most other Talibs of his generation, a \u2018true believer\u2019 in this rhetoric. Some commentators have suggested this is pathological, but a possible explanation can be found in the time he spent with foreign jihadis both on the northern fronts during the 1990s as well as post-2001, when he was in South Waziristan. He was frequently used as a go-between for the Taliban in Pakistan and retained ties to the foreign al-Qaeda affiliates as well.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So this kind of thing is not entirely unknown, and indeed &#8220;revenge&#8221; strikes outside Afghan territory would fit the model Dadullah himself proposed for strikes within Afghanistan (pp. 273-73):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Our tactics now are hit and run; we attack certain locations, kill the enemies of Allah there, and retreat to safe bases in the mountains to preserve our mujahidin. This tactic disrupts and weakens the enemies of Allah and in the same time allows us to be on the offensive. We decide the time and place of our attacks; in this way the enemy is always guessing. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Mullah Dadullah<\/strong> died in 2007, but it seems his thinking still exerts some influence&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>** ** **<\/p>\n<p>And NSA &#8212; or <strong><em>Nonesuch<\/em><\/strong> as I was taught to call it, back in the day?<\/p>\n<p>I stand by the idea I tweeted to <strong>JM Berger<\/strong> yesterday:  <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p>need a blog called &#8220;three days into the story&#8221; that discards what turns out to be fog &amp; links best re breaking news @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intelwire\">intelwire<\/a> eg NSA<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; hipbonegamer (@hipbonegamer) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hipbonegamer\/status\/343423825679089665\">June 8, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;d only add that three days doesn&#8217;t seem long enough in this case, and that when the dust settles we may still find ourselves holding just a few loose ends of a multiply-tangled web&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ by Charles Cameron &#8212; screengrabs from a very recently posted video, mostly Taliban with just a smidgeon of NSA ] [edited to add: please see warning in comment below] . Scary, hunh? Yeah? ** No, this is not from a NSA \/ Prism video &#8212; I&#8217;ll have just a little more on that topic [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[662,129,321,526,723,239,897,139,709,783,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-23542","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blog-friends","category-blogging","category-blogosphere","category-charles-cameron","category-creepy-state","category-ic","category-jm-berger-2","category-media","category-taliban","category-threat","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23542","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=23542"}],"version-history":[{"count":46,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23542\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":23733,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23542\/revisions\/23733"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=23542"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=23542"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=23542"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}