{"id":44453,"date":"2015-04-12T03:00:07","date_gmt":"2015-04-12T03:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=44453"},"modified":"2015-04-12T04:51:53","modified_gmt":"2015-04-12T04:51:53","slug":"blog-friend-cheryl-rofer-on-the-iranian-nuke-deal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=44453","title":{"rendered":"Blog friend Cheryl Rofer on the Iranian nuke deal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[ by <strong>Charles Cameron<\/strong> &#8212; and Furnish pwns Sowell  &#8212; corrected version ]<br \/>\n.<\/p>\n<p>First there&#8217;s <strong>Cheryl Rofer<\/strong>&#8216;s piece on <em>Nuclear Diner<\/em>, <a href=\"http:\/\/nucleardiner.com\/2015\/04\/03\/the-iran-framework-agreement-the-good-the-bad-and-tbd\/\">The Iran Framework Agreement: The Good, the Bad, and TBD<\/a>. Then that gets quoted by <strong>Alexander Montgomery<\/strong> in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/monkey-cage\/wp\/2015\/04\/06\/iranian-scientists-and-the-nuclear-deal\/\"><em>Washington Post&#8217;s Monkey Cage<\/em><\/a> for April 6. <font color=\"blue\">Note: I has originally quoted Montgomery but attributed the quote to Cheryl, see her comment below. I have now removed the quote in question.<\/font> And now Cheryl has a piece in <em>Mother Jones<\/em> titled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.motherjones.com\/kevin-drum\/2015\/04\/cheryl-rofer-iran-nuclear-deal\">Never Mind the Doubters: The Iran Deal Is Good Enough<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The final deal remains to be negotiated. The fact sheet is only an outline, and some issues will be easier to solve than others. Still to be worked out: Sanctions, particularly the schedule on which they are to be lifted. A list of research and development activities that Iran is allowed to pursue may or may not have been drawn up in Lausanne. Details on how Iran&#8217;s enriched uranium stockpile will be reduced and the redesign of the Arak reactor are missing.<\/p>\n<p>The extent of Iran&#8217;s past activity on nuclear weapons was relegated to the IAEA by the P5+1 throughout the negotiations, and is a lesser provision in the fact sheet. Do we have to know all Iran&#8217;s dirty secrets to police a future agreement? Probably not.<\/p>\n<p>The Supreme Leader issued a tweet stream that seems to give his blessing for a deal to go forward, but his words were unclear enough that domestic hardliners could seize on them in an attempt to scuttle the deal. Iran&#8217;s President Rouhani has voiced his support. In Israel, even the general who bombed the Osirak reactor thinks it&#8217;s a good deal.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Methinks kudos are in order &#8212; and I personally am thankful for a voice of informed and informative nuance on so hotly contested and significant a topic.<\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>In other <strong>Iranian nuclear deal<\/strong> news, blog friend <strong>Tim Furnish<\/strong> has taken on his fellow-conservative <strong>Tom Sowell<\/strong>&#8216;s NRO piece on the topic, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/article\/416188\/theres-no-deterring-apocalyptic-nuclear-iran-thomas-sowell\">There\u2019s No Deterring an Apocalyptic Nuclear Iran<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" lang=\"en\">\n<p>Fellow <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/Conservatives?src=hash\">#Conservatives<\/a>: PLEASE read my 2011 paper on <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/Iran?src=hash\">#Iran<\/a> &amp; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/WMD?src=hash\">#WMD<\/a> before (ignorantly) opining: <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/K8QPbCdCZ4\">http:\/\/t.co\/K8QPbCdCZ4<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/WLBSUOOQU3\">pic.twitter.com\/WLBSUOOQU3<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Timothy Furnish, PhD (@Occidentaljihad) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Occidentaljihad\/status\/586901452599115778\">April 11, 2015<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That&#8217;s the extended analytic piece which Tim concludes with this paragraph:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>While in Iran for the 2008 Mahdism Conference, I heard both President Ahmadinejad and Prime Minister Ali Larijani speak. Ahmadinejad said, regarding Israel and Shi`i eschatology, that \u201cthe problem of the+ false, fabricated Zionist regime\u201d would not be solved \u201cin the absence of the Perfect Man, the Mahdi\u201d &#8212; effectively dousing the alarmist, and inaccurate, view that the IRI\u2019s chief executive wishes to \u201chotwire the apocalypse.\u201d Islamic fervor for lighting that eschatological detonation cord exists among certain Sunnis groups (including, quite possibly, al-Qa`idah) &#8212; but it is not characteristic of Twelver Shi`ism. Larijani, in the closing speech of that same conference, proclaimed that \u201cMahdism has three pillars: spirituality, rationalism and jihad.\u201d  It is admittedly possible, despite all the aforementioned reasoning, that \u201ctheir own vitriolic rhetoric could conceivably run away with the leaders of the Islamic Republic, and an Iranian nuclear weapon find its way to Tel Aviv.\u201d But the preponderance of evidence &#8212; Islamic history in general, specific Shi`i traditions and teachings as well as modern religio-political discourse in Iran &#8212; indicates, rather, that the rationality and spirituality of Iranian Mahdism is holding at bay its undeniable jihad aspect. Tehran thus, ironically, finds its potential nuclear policy fettered by Qom: mainstream Shi`i theology does not support violence (nuclear or conventional) in order to precipitate the return of the 12th Imam; furthermore, employing nuclear weapons is verboten in the Mahdi\u2019s absence &#8212; except, perhaps, under the rubric of defensive jihad, were Iran itself to be attacked or invaded. Seen in this light, the Islamic Republic\u2019s pursuit of nuclear weapons falls from the overly-alarmist apocalyptic register into a more mundane, and manageable, geopolitical one.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If that was so duing the presidency of <strong>Ahmadinejad<\/strong>, it is doubly so now, with <strong>Rouhani <\/strong>in his place.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ by Charles Cameron &#8212; and Furnish pwns Sowell &#8212; corrected version ] . First there&#8217;s Cheryl Rofer&#8216;s piece on Nuclear Diner, The Iran Framework Agreement: The Good, the Bad, and TBD. Then that gets quoted by Alexander Montgomery in the Washington Post&#8217;s Monkey Cage for April 6. Note: I has originally quoted Montgomery but [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[662,526,896,93,623,90,684,108,1,42],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44453","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blog-friends","category-charles-cameron","category-dr-timothy-furnish","category-iran","category-mahdist","category-nuclear","category-nuclear-diner","category-rofer","category-uncategorized","category-washington-post"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44453","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=44453"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44453\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":44470,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44453\/revisions\/44470"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=44453"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=44453"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=44453"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}