{"id":45852,"date":"2015-08-08T22:38:25","date_gmt":"2015-08-08T22:38:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=45852"},"modified":"2015-08-08T22:38:25","modified_gmt":"2015-08-08T22:38:25","slug":"the-paradox-of-the-repugnant-conclusion-more","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=45852","title":{"rendered":"The paradox of the Repugnant Conclusion &#038; more"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[ by <strong>Charles Cameron<\/strong> &#8212; two data points, one impoverished, one rich &#8212; and a redemptive (maybe) quote from Twiggy ]<br \/>\n.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/SPEC-DQ-The-Repugnant-Conclusion.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/SPEC-DQ-The-Repugnant-Conclusion.png\" alt=\"SPEC DQ The Repugnant Conclusion\" width=\"602\" height=\"636\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-45853\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/SPEC-DQ-The-Repugnant-Conclusion.png 602w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/SPEC-DQ-The-Repugnant-Conclusion-284x300.png 284w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 602px) 100vw, 602px\" \/><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>As I quoted in my recent post <a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=45608\">Not everything that counts can be counted<\/a>, &#8220;Effective altruism is based on a very simple idea: we should do the most good we can&#8221; &#8212; which in turn suggests that &#8220;good&#8221; can be quantified, an idea I resist.<\/p>\n<p>The <em>Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy<\/em> article <a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/repugnant-conclusion\/\">The Repugnant Conclusion<\/a>, from which I drew the <strong>Parfit <\/strong>quote [upper panel, above], doesn&#8217;t mention <strong>Wittgenstein <\/strong>, though I suspect his view that we cannot sum individual sufferings to a grand total would suggest a similarposition with regard to the summation of individual happinesses..<\/p>\n<p>And as <a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=7785\">I&#8217;ve pointed out before<\/a>, both <strong>CS Lewis<\/strong> and <strong>Arne Naess<\/strong> agree with Wittgenstein on this point.<\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>Walker Percy, Ludwig Wittngenstiein and Clive Staples Lewis all being Christians, it seems appropriate to recall here the tale of <strong>Mary and Martha<\/strong> from the New Testament, Luke 10:38-42 &#8212;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house. And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus&#8217; feet, and heard his word. But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me. And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things: But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I somewhat cavalierly refer to this story on occasion as the story of <strong>Mary Qualit<\/strong> and M<strong>artha Quant<\/strong>. Eh. <strong>Mary Quant<\/strong>, you may recall if you&#8217;re as old as I am, gave us the mini-skirt, the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Daisy_(doll)#\/media\/File:Dashing_Daisy_Ice_Queen_65703_in_original_box.jpg\">Dashing Daisy doll<\/a>, and <strong>Twiggy <\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>The quote from Walker Percy&#8217;s second novel [lower panel, above] nicely illustrates high level abstraction, as we instantly see when we compare it with the personal insight (from the same novel) on which it is based [lower panel, below]:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/SPEC-DQ-Walker-Percy-x-2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/SPEC-DQ-Walker-Percy-x-2.png\" alt=\"SPEC DQ Walker Percy x 2\" width=\"602\" height=\"636\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-45866\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/SPEC-DQ-Walker-Percy-x-2.png 602w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/SPEC-DQ-Walker-Percy-x-2-284x300.png 284w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 602px) 100vw, 602px\" \/><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The first is philosophy, the second &#8212; if you&#8217;ll pardon my saying so &#8212; is humanity.<\/p>\n<p>Literature. Art.<\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>All of which ties in neatly with a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/permalink.php?story_fbid=893074850773778&#038;id=100002138137259\">conversation I was having on Facebook<\/a> with my long-time friend the game designer <a href=\"http:\/\/inside.indiana.edu\/spotlights-profiles\/faculty-staff\/2015-08-05-mike-sellers-gencon.shtml\"><strong>Mike Sellers<\/strong><\/a>.  And in all of which, I am trying not to forget the <strong>heart&#8217;s reasons<\/strong> of which Pascal famously wrote &#8212; <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The heart has reasons Reason knows not of<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8212; because we need them in our gaming, in our analysis, and our understanding of what Mike Sellers describes as our world that is &#8220;far more interconnected and interactive than ever before.&#8221;:<\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sources:<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<li><strong>Julia Galef<\/strong>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=vqBl50TREHU\">The Repugnant Conclusion (a philosophy paradox)<\/a>\n<li><strong>Walter Isaacson<\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2015\/08\/09\/books\/review\/walker-percys-theory-of-hurricanes.html\">Walker Percy\u2019s Theory of Hurricanes<\/a><\/li>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>Hey, Twiggy &#8212; sweet &#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.azquotes.com\/author\/34647-Twiggy\">gets the main point<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/twiggy-quote.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/twiggy-quote.png\" alt=\"twiggy quote\" width=\"602\" height=\"281\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-45871\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/twiggy-quote.png 602w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/twiggy-quote-300x140.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 602px) 100vw, 602px\" \/><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ by Charles Cameron &#8212; two data points, one impoverished, one rich &#8212; and a redemptive (maybe) quote from Twiggy ] . ** As I quoted in my recent post Not everything that counts can be counted, &#8220;Effective altruism is based on a very simple idea: we should do the most good we can&#8221; &#8212; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[526,497,627,706,840,218,758,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-45852","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-charles-cameron","category-christianity","category-doublequotes","category-model","category-paradox","category-philosophy","category-quant-qualit","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45852","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=45852"}],"version-history":[{"count":27,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45852\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":45883,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45852\/revisions\/45883"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=45852"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=45852"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=45852"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}