{"id":47887,"date":"2015-11-24T23:04:10","date_gmt":"2015-11-24T23:04:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=47887"},"modified":"2015-11-24T23:04:10","modified_gmt":"2015-11-24T23:04:10","slug":"islamic-state-etat-chretien-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=47887","title":{"rendered":"Islamic State, Etat Chr\u00e9tien"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[ by <strong>Charles Cameron<\/strong> &#8212; breaking news, and I hope it stays broken ]<br \/>\n.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the breaking news in French, followed by my comments, then back to the document in question:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/eocBoOG4fpw\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s a symmetry to the names, <strong>Etat Chr\u00e9tien<\/strong> and <strong>Islamic State<\/strong> &#8212; and a considerable asymmetry as to the size of the two groups &#8212; but here we have my (poor) translation of the Etat Chr\u00e9tien&#8217;s message to a mosque in Molenbeek, Belgium &#8212; a Brussels municipality much in the news recently:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In the name of Christ our Lord!<br \/>\nTremble, Muslim that you are!<br \/>\nThe Christian State will avenge our brothers fallen in various attacks!<br \/>\nNo mosque and no business of yours will be sheltered!<br \/>\nYour brothers will be slaughtered like pigs and crucified as our Lord was in order to convert their souls!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m not clear on whether the import of that last line is that the EC will slaughter and crucify Muslims to convert their souls, or that Christ was crucified to convert their souls. Either way, for those who claim to be Christians to crucify <em>anyone <\/em>under <em>any circumstances<\/em> seems a seriously aberrational act in light of what was done to Christ himself. <\/p>\n<p>Crucifying others is not the <strong>Imitatio Christi<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s as if these people want to prove that the propaganda narrative of IS, AQ and the rest is right, and Christianity truly is at war with Islam &#8212; which in itself is a gift to IS propaganda and recruitment.<\/p>\n<p>The asymmetry I mentioned, BTW, is pretty much evened out by the old saw phrased by the RAND corporation thus: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rand.org\/blog\/2008\/11\/terrorists-have-to-be-lucky-once-targets-every-time.html\">Terrorists Have to Be Lucky Once; Targets, Every Time<\/a>. In the present case, both sides are terrorists, and each only has to be lucky once.<\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m ashamed of my rusty French skills &#8212; in case yours are better, here&#8217;s the missive:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/lettre_de_meance_belgique.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/lettre_de_meance_belgique.jpg\" alt=\"lettre_de_meance_belgique\" width=\"565\" height=\"738\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-47884\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/lettre_de_meance_belgique.jpg 565w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/lettre_de_meance_belgique-230x300.jpg 230w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 565px) 100vw, 565px\" \/><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ by Charles Cameron &#8212; breaking news, and I hope it stays broken ] . Here&#8217;s the breaking news in French, followed by my comments, then back to the document in question: ** There&#8217;s a symmetry to the names, Etat Chr\u00e9tien and Islamic State &#8212; and a considerable asymmetry as to the size of the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[526,497,52,1078,1047,753,210,211,1,1135],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-47887","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-charles-cameron","category-christianity","category-france","category-is","category-isis","category-islam","category-islamist","category-terrorism","category-uncategorized","category-vigilantism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47887","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=47887"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47887\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":47899,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47887\/revisions\/47899"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=47887"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=47887"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=47887"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}