{"id":4959,"date":"2011-12-21T19:36:16","date_gmt":"2011-12-21T19:36:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=4959"},"modified":"2011-12-21T19:44:57","modified_gmt":"2011-12-21T19:44:57","slug":"two-great-early-cyberneticists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=4959","title":{"rendered":"Two Great Early Cyberneticists"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[ by <strong>Charles Cameron<\/strong> &#8212; Ashby, the Law of Requisite Variety, Bateson, the arts and sciences ]<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/SPEC-ashby-bateson.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-4960\" title=\"SPEC ashby bateson\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/SPEC-ashby-bateson.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"590\" height=\"613\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/SPEC-ashby-bateson.png 590w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/SPEC-ashby-bateson-288x300.png 288w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Mapping from complexity to complexity. Access to a set of relationships &#8230; that we are not usually conscious of in ourselves.\u00a0 The depth and riches of imagination, of the arts and sciences, of the listening heart \/ mind, of the world around us, of the models we need to make to navigate that world successfully&#8230; of the wisdom our steersmen need, and all too often lack.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Zen<\/strong>&#8216;s post <a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=4905\">Ruminating on Strategic thinking<\/a> had me thinking a bit, and I guess I felt some of his bullet points,<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Assessment of the relationships among the variables<\/li>\n<li>Assessment of the relationship between the variables and their strategic environment<\/li>\n<li>Assessment of current \u201ctrajectory\u201d or trend lines of variables<\/li>\n<li>Assessment of costs to effect a change in the position or nature of each variable<\/li>\n<li>Assessment of the strengths and weaknesses of the variables as a functioning system<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>and particularly<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Recognition of systemic \u201cchoke points\u201d, \u201ctipping points\u201d and feedback loops.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>are separable as components one might learn, but need to fuse into a single intuition if the result is to be fully system-responsive.<\/p>\n<p>And I think the two comments above by <strong>Ashby<\/strong> and <strong>Bateson<\/strong> are in their own ways both &#8220;about&#8221; that &#8212; about the need for a <em>gestalt<\/em> understanding rather than a list of separate and disparate parts&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<p>And of course, those two quotes can also be used to pitch for cybernetics, or for poetry, or both&#8230; much to my delight!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ by Charles Cameron &#8212; Ashby, the Law of Requisite Variety, Bateson, the arts and sciences ] Mapping from complexity to complexity. Access to a set of relationships &#8230; that we are not usually conscious of in ourselves.\u00a0 The depth and riches of imagination, of the arts and sciences, of the listening heart \/ mind, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[119,697,526,327,21,696,23,462,687,127,383,31,657],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4959","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-attention","category-bateson","category-charles-cameron","category-complex-systems","category-creativity","category-cybernetics","category-insight","category-metacognition","category-specs","category-strategy","category-symmetry","category-synthesis","category-zen"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4959","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4959"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4959\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4969,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4959\/revisions\/4969"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4959"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4959"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4959"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}