{"id":53294,"date":"2016-10-23T21:06:33","date_gmt":"2016-10-23T21:06:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=53294"},"modified":"2016-10-26T20:17:09","modified_gmt":"2016-10-26T20:17:09","slug":"thucydides-roundtable-book-i-reflections-in-a-beginners-mind","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=53294","title":{"rendered":"Thucydides Roundtable, Book I: reflections in a beginner&#8217;s mind"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[ by <strong>Charles Cameron<\/strong> ]<br \/>\n.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m entirely new to <strong>Thucydides<\/strong>, having received my copy of the book only on Friday, so I&#8217;ll keep this brief. I hope to have caught up a bit more by this time next week.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, my mind works associatively, so.. <\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/rich-vs-poor-in-Rio.jpg\" alt=\"rich-vs-poor-in-rio\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-53331\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/rich-vs-poor-in-Rio.jpg 600w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/rich-vs-poor-in-Rio-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><br \/>\nRiches and poverty in Rio<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>The goodness of the land favored the enrichment of particular individuals, and thus created faction which proved a fertile source of ruin. It also invited invasion.<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/trump-border-wall.jpg\" alt=\"trump-border-wall\" width=\"600\" height=\"316\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-53332\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/trump-border-wall.jpg 600w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/trump-border-wall-300x158.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><br \/>\nDonald Trump<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In Spencer-Brown&#8217;s inimitable and enigmatic fashion, the Mark symbolizes the root of cognition, i.e., the dualistic Mark indicates the capability of differentiating a &#8220;this&#8221; from &#8220;everything else but this.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>He does not even use the term barbarian, probably because the Hellenes had not yet been marked off from the rest of the world by one distinctive name.<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in a speech after a suicide bomb explosion in Istanbul on January 12, 2016, said: &#8220;Pick a side. You are either on the side of the Turkish government, or you\u2019re on the side of the terrorists.&#8221; <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>** <\/p>\n<blockquote><div id=\"attachment_53319\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-53319\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/belt-1.jpg\" alt=\"The iconic &#039;Rumble in the Jungle&#039; belt of late boxing champion Muhammad Ali is displayed for auction at Heritage Auctions house in Manhattan, New York, U.S., August 19, 2016. REUTERS\/Eduardo Munoz\" width=\"600\" height=\"246\" class=\"size-full wp-image-53319\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/belt-1.jpg 600w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/belt-1-300x123.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-53319\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The iconic &#8216;Rumble in the Jungle&#8217; belt of late boxing champion Muhammad Ali is displayed for auction at Heritage Auctions house in Manhattan, New York, U.S., August 19, 2016. REUTERS\/Eduardo Munoz<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>To this day among some of the barbarians, especially in Asia, where prizes for boxing and wrestling are offered, belts are worn by the contestants..<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><div id=\"attachment_53323\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-53323\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/its_a_family_affair_as_daiki_kamedas_win_means_all_three_brothers_hold_championship_belts.jpg\" alt=\"Koki Kameda of Japan, center, donning the newly-captured champion belt, green, in addition to the two he already has, poses with his younger brothers Daiki, left, and Kazuki after Koki&#039;s victory over Alexander Munoz of Venezuela in their 12-round WBA bantamweight world title boxing bout in Saitama, Japan, Sunday, Dec. 26, 2010. Koki Kameda won a unanimous decision over Munoz to take the vacant title. (AP Photo\/Shizuo Kambayashi)\" width=\"600\" height=\"364\" class=\"size-full wp-image-53323\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/its_a_family_affair_as_daiki_kamedas_win_means_all_three_brothers_hold_championship_belts.jpg 600w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/its_a_family_affair_as_daiki_kamedas_win_means_all_three_brothers_hold_championship_belts-300x182.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-53323\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Koki Kameda of Japan, center, donning the newly-captured champion belt, green, in addition to the two he already has, poses with his younger brothers Daiki, left, and Kazuki after Koki&#8217;s victory over Alexander Munoz of Venezuela in their 12-round WBA bantamweight world title boxing bout in Saitama, Japan, Sunday, Dec. 26, 2010. Koki Kameda won a unanimous decision over Munoz to take the vacant title. (AP Photo\/Shizuo Kambayashi)<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ by Charles Cameron ] . I&#8217;m entirely new to Thucydides, having received my copy of the book only on Friday, so I&#8217;ll keep this brief. I hope to have caught up a bit more by this time next week. Meanwhile, my mind works associatively, so.. ** Riches and poverty in Rio The goodness of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[526,1314,25,719,1404,1432,429,1,657],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-53294","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-charles-cameron","category-donald-trump","category-horizontal-thinking","category-sports","category-thucydides-roundtable","category-trt-book-i","category-turkey","category-uncategorized","category-zen"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53294","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=53294"}],"version-history":[{"count":17,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53294\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":53349,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53294\/revisions\/53349"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=53294"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=53294"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=53294"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}