{"id":65362,"date":"2019-06-19T17:52:16","date_gmt":"2019-06-19T17:52:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=65362"},"modified":"2019-06-19T18:36:07","modified_gmt":"2019-06-19T18:36:07","slug":"the-ideal-and-the-practical-the-practice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=65362","title":{"rendered":"The Ideal and the Practical &#8212; the Practice"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[ by <strong>Charles Cameron<\/strong> &#8212; cross-posted from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.brownpundits.com\/2019\/06\/19\/the-ideal-and-the-practice\/\">BrownPundits<\/a> in response to a friend&#8217;s comment there ]<br \/>\n.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d written a response to @AnAn and included a quote from the Chuang Tzu&#8217;s chapter on <a href=\"http:\/\/background.uchicago.edu\/~whu\/acoustic\/quote.html\">Lord Wen-hui and what he learned from his Cook Ting<\/a>, and wanted to throw in the following DoubleQuote &#8212; but graphics seem to be discouraged in the Comment sections here, so I&#8217;ve opened this post for the purpose:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QUO-dq-Tao-Lao-and-Chuang.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"625\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-65363\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QUO-dq-Tao-Lao-and-Chuang.png 600w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QUO-dq-Tao-Lao-and-Chuang-288x300.png 288w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The thing is, Lao Tzu offers us the ideal statement, formulated in terms of an impenetrable absence of space, and an absence of substance to the point of non-existence &#8212; while Chuang Tzu, peering over Lord Wen-hui&#8217;s shoulder right there in Cook Ting&#8217;s kitchen, offers us the same insight, couched in terms of there being &#8220;spaces between the joints&#8221; and his knife having &#8220;really no thickness&#8221; &#8212; Chuang Tzu&#8217;s measureless insight penetrates Lao Tzu&#8217;s impenetrable absolutes to show us there&#8217;s room for play there &#8212; &#8220;room &#8212; more than enough for the blade to play about in&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>If we bear these two versions of the same idea &#8212; formulated ideally and in practical terms by the two principle philosopher-poets of the Taoist school &#8212; in mind when our thoughts run up against the impracticality of an ideal, we may find, like Cook Ting, that we too have room enough room to play in.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ by Charles Cameron &#8212; cross-posted from BrownPundits in response to a friend&#8217;s comment there ] . I&#8217;d written a response to @AnAn and included a quote from the Chuang Tzu&#8217;s chapter on Lord Wen-hui and what he learned from his Cook Ting, and wanted to throw in the following DoubleQuote &#8212; but graphics seem [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[526,144,627,1161,218,741,1,1911],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-65362","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-charles-cameron","category-china","category-doublequotes","category-ideal","category-philosophy","category-poetry","category-uncategorized","category-wisdom"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65362","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=65362"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65362\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":65366,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65362\/revisions\/65366"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=65362"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=65362"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=65362"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}