{"id":7064,"date":"2012-03-26T09:12:38","date_gmt":"2012-03-26T09:12:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=7064"},"modified":"2012-03-26T09:20:40","modified_gmt":"2012-03-26T09:20:40","slug":"quantity-and-quality-the-angelic-hosts-at-badr-and-or-armageddon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=7064","title":{"rendered":"Quantity and Quality: angelic hosts at Badr and \/ or Armageddon"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[ by <strong>Charles Cameron<\/strong> &#8212; on a mostly overlooked possible asymmetry ]<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/Durer-St-Michaeli.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/Durer-St-Michaeli.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Durer St Michaeli\" width=\"320\" height=\"435\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7065\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/Durer-St-Michaeli.jpg 320w, https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/Durer-St-Michaeli-220x300.jpg 220w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" \/><\/a> <\/p>\n<p><strong>Michael Peck<\/strong> posted a piece at the game site <em>Kotaku <\/em>yesterday, titled <a href=\"http:\/\/kotaku.com\/5895917\/the-immense-pleasure-of-huge-war-games\">The Immense Pleasure of Huge War Games<\/a>, and his opening quote startled me \u2013 it&#8217;s not one I&#8217;d heard before.  Here&#8217;s Peck&#8217;s first para:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Quantity has a quality all its own,&#8221; said Josef Stalin, as he relentlessly flung waves of Soviet tanks and troops against Hitler&#8217;s elite but outnumbered panzers. Comrade Stalin might not have believed in a deity, but even a Communist warlord would surely have agreed with Napoleon&#8217;s dictum that God is on the side of the bigger battalions.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That interests me deeply, because I regard <a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=3873\">the relationship between quantity and quality<\/a> as one phrasing of the knot at the heart of consciousness &#8212; the &#8220;hard problem&#8221; as science terms it &#8212; equivalent to <a href=\"http:\/\/zenpundit.com\/?p=4318\">the question of how our subjectivity and objective reality mutually arise<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<p>And so to Napoleon&#8217;s dictum that God is on the side of the bigger battalions &#8212; I imagine he means real, flesh and blood battalions &#8212; which &#8220;even a Communist warlord would surely have agreed with&#8221;.  <\/p>\n<p>Not so the Qur&#8217;an, which reminded the <strong>Prophet <\/strong>of the battle of Badr (Quran 8.9-10): <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Remember ye implored the assistance of your Lord, and He answered you: &#8220;I will assist you with a thousand of the angels, ranks on ranks.&#8221; Allah made it but a message of hope, and an assurance to your hearts: (in any case) there is no help except from Allah: and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Durer<\/strong>&#8216;s angels of the Apocalypse, likewise, are militant angels, though like ourselves (Ephesians 6.12) they:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high (celestial) places.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<p>And so I would ask you: is there even the possibility of a <strong>higher asymmetry<\/strong> at work here &#8212; or are we speaking only of a matter of brute force versus high morale?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ by Charles Cameron &#8212; on a mostly overlooked possible asymmetry ] Michael Peck posted a piece at the game site Kotaku yesterday, titled The Immense Pleasure of Huge War Games, and his opening quote startled me \u2013 it&#8217;s not one I&#8217;d heard before. Here&#8217;s Peck&#8217;s first para: &#8220;Quantity has a quality all its own,&#8221; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[622,384,730,526,497,529,665,499,676,1,18],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7064","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-apocalyptic","category-art","category-asymmetric","category-charles-cameron","category-christianity","category-games","category-hard-problem-in-consciousness","category-islamic-world","category-scriptures","category-uncategorized","category-war"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7064","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=7064"}],"version-history":[{"count":15,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7064\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7080,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7064\/revisions\/7080"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=7064"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=7064"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenpundit.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=7064"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}