Going five rounds and then some with those Egyptian Crucifixions…
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Jesus in the Gospel of John 8.7 comments on the punishment by stoning of an adulteress with a clever rabbinic shift of emphasis — not denying earlier scripture (Deuteronomy 17.7) which called for the first stone to be cast by a witness, but rendering the punishment itself effectively impossible to carry out:
He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Finally:
From stoning, crucifixion and beheading, we the human race have by and large progressed in our use of capital punishment to such more recent devices as the guillotine, gas chamber, electric chair, and lethal injection.
Someone named Starling Carlton was executed in South Carolina in 1859 for aiding a runaway slave.
According to the Innocence Project:
Seventeen people have been proven innocent and exonerated by DNA testing in the United States after serving time on death row.
And so the wheel turns.
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Mr. X:
September 3rd, 2012 at 12:22 am
Issue not soy overall (and Asian guts can tolerate lots more bacteria than Caucasian or other non-Asian ones anyway, as I have learned to my sorrow by swearing off all raw sushi). Bigger issue is Monsatan GMO soy which the soyniks who defame all dairy products in the Whole Foods books section don’t mention too often. Fact is U.S. primary feedstock for all meat animals remains a biculture – corn and soy. Corn has been ravaged by drought this summer as nearly everyone is aware and cows were originally used to eating grasses rather than corn anyway, GMO or non-GMO (which is why I still eat perhaps corn fed chicken but not beef anymore). Russian chicken also tastes very different and does not tend towards the ultra-pinkness or even greenish-greyishness of U.S. chicken which the Russians have rejected in no small part because Russian chickens eat buckwheat and wheat instead of corn. Both corn and soy seeds market more than 90% captured by Monsanto/Monsatan.
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Bottom line while Pajamas Media will have conservative columnists sneering at organic foods (they oughtta be cheering, considering their beef with Mexifornia’s vegetable industry being killed off by coastal neo-feudal eco fascists and the fact that Whole Foods CEO a big time GOP donor) they don’t dare ask if it isn’t laziness but corrupted/tainted food supplies that have caused the U.S. population and American women in particular to balloon beyond their parents or grandparents, who also rode in buses or had access to automobiles and televisions.
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Maybe they’re afraid they’ll veer off into full blown Alex Jones land of chemtrails and massive NWO conspiracies to dumb down and then kill off the human herd? Or maybe the PJMers are just lazy and associate organic with hippies just like they associate Russia with bears on Red Square and the eternal KGB Evil Empire. But there I said it. There certainly is plenty of known unknowns and unknown and unknowns involved in GMO. And is it mere coincidence that Slavic ladies in countries that either label or ban GMO pack on less girth than American women of comparable age? Mere coincidence that Europeans can develop myriad of gut problems upon being exposed to antibiotic resistant and wider various bacterias in our foods spread by illegal alien kitchen workers?
Mr. X:
September 3rd, 2012 at 12:28 am
Back to the main theme above, of crucifixition atrocity tales, they do remind of Robert Graves’ ‘Goodbye to All That’ where the Tommies claimed Germans had crucified a Tommy in the trenches of WWI based on pure rumor. However I should also point out that there are fine examples of the Establishment or pro-Establishment voices cherry picking one erroneos report to insist that they’ve debunked the whole lot:
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Example 1: Fox News managed to report on the ‘conspiracy theorists’ fears about the massive ammo buying by the Federal government of late, by pointing to the buys by the Social Security Administration (which claimed it needed about 1.4 million hollow point rounds to train its personnel for kicking down the doors of people fraudulently collecting others benefits) and the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration, better known as NOAA or the hurricane prediction people funded by the feds. NOAA later insisted that their ammo buy was a ‘typo’ or somesuch and that they are not in fact stockpiling mass quantities of hollow point to keep the raging hordes outside the wire of the National Hurricane Center in Miami.
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BUT THE FOX NEWS REPORT DIDN’T MENTION THE 1.2 BILLION ROUNDS ORDERED BY HOMELAND SECURITY! Hence a classic case of ‘debunking the conspiracy theorists’ by taking the tiniest part of their argument rather than explaining why the hell DHS needs 1.2 bil rounds that it cannot use in 20-30 years of current peacetime training rates and that exceed the amount of ammo used in multiple years of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan (if it were military caliber rather than the unlawful to use in warfare hollow points).
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This is a typical dumbed down Establishment media trick — pick the weakest or most over the top assertion by a ‘conspiracy theorist’, and thereby insist you’ve debunked the whole thing, when you’ve in fact done it only for the uncurious and lazy.
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Example 2: Syria and the ongoing propaganda campaign to pretend FSA, if not model democrats, are not dominated by hardcore Islamists funded by the same Saudi princes who gave us 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers, and who swear to fight Israel and persecute Christians upon seizing power in Damascus. There is a ‘Brown Moses Blog’ run by perhaps an expat Syrian (don’t really know who) routinely tweeted by @ReginaldQuill, who is a third rate neocon/BigSis wannabe propagandist who recently got caught tweeting ‘don’t throw the democracy baby out with the jihadi bathwater in Syria’ to Walter Russell Mead. Maybe it gave WRM a good laugh — right before he closed his comments section.
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Anyway, when I confronted Brown Moses in a comment about photographs posted on the website Infowars.com showing FSA fighters with Kalashnikovs in a shelled church and his innocent explanation that they were ‘guarding the church after it had been shelled by Assad forces’ he sidestepped the question. I then pointed out that Christian militia would never wear priestly vestments as those are reserved for the priests, the vestments were clearly stolen by Islamist fighters who don’t respect Christian holy places. Brown Moses never answered.
Mr. X:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:02 am
Correction on the rounds usage projection above the numbers I keep hearing are as follows:
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An estimated 1.8 billion rounds (I would guess mostly .223, .50 cal or 9 mm) were used by U.S. troops in Iraq for training or combat purposes. I do not know if that was for one year or the entire duration of the war. So put that number in comparison to 1.2 billion. Still not certain about how many Olympic sized swimming pools that could fill as a visual. And have yet to confirm how long it will take to fill the orders. Until then it is admittedly hard to establish context even if the raw number is alarming enough.
Mr. X:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:07 am
Sorry source is Douglas J. Hagmann – he says 1.8 billion (not 1.2) is enough rounds to completely fill 63 Olympic-sized swimming pools or 7 rounds fired per second from a standard semi-auto pistol for 8 years.