A metaphysical trigonometry

It has been argued that the thrust of Hinduism as of Buddhism is vertically upwards, towards transcendance of this world in moksha, liberation, whereas that of Christianity is downwards, towards immanence, in the Incarnation, indeed in what Henri Nouwen calls “downward mobility”.

In reality, however, the god Vishnu descends into human form in his avatars Narsingh, Rama, Krishna, Kalki — to play lila within creation, while the yogi’s path leads upowards to moksha — and the Christ who descends into time and human circumstance is also the ascended and eternal Christ whose celestial marriage feast is celebrated in each Eucharist…

In short, paths of both ascent and descent are to be found, as perhaps we might have learned from the story of Jacob’s Ladder (Genesis 28,12):

and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.

Or as TS Eliot puts it in Four Quartets, variously echoing Heraclitus, Dante, John of the Cross:

And the way up is the way down, the way forward is the way back.

and:

Shall I say it again? In order to arrive there,

To arrive where you are, to get from where you are not,

You must go by a way wherein there is no ecstasy.

In order to arrive at what you do not know

You must go by a way which is the way of ignorance.

In order to possess what you do not possess

You must go by the way of dispossession.

In order to arrive at what you are not

You must go through the way in which you are not.

And what you do not know is the only thing you know

And what you own is what you do not own

And where you are is where you are not.

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Going a step further, Cleo McNelly Kearns writes:

The way down is the way of asceticism and abstraction, while the way up is the way of erotic experience, metaphor and imagination. The negative way seeks, through a process of progressive elimination of the partial, to attain a posture of complete humility and self-erasure before the void; the positive way calls for escalating degrees of recognition and self-affirmation proceeding from like to like to a place commensurate with contemplation of the whole. Likewise, the negative way, or way down, seeks to move the consciousness beyond the body and its images, while the affirmative way, or way up, seeks to move it more deeply into them.

The negative, apophatic way, avoids affirmative statements and images because they might be mistaken for idols and worshipped, while the affirmative, cataphatic way uses affirmations and images as icons and symbols through which the unseen may be glimpsed.

And we’re into a whole new areea of discourse.

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  1. Ken Hoop:

    Well, isn’t it ironic, Charles, that you can quote very favorable references to Christ in Muslim tradition but the references in Jewish tradition are only negative, eg Talmudic.
    I say ironic not to bait you but because your context features Judaizing Christian heretic dispensationalists who have little positive to say about Islam but who sanction Israel’s theft of Palestine as part of God’s plan.
    By the way Israeli law rules out “Jews for Jesus” as eligible for “return.”
    Calls them “ex-Jews.”

  2. Charles Cameron:

    Hi Ken:
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    You think “Every disbeliever who smells his fragrance will die” in the hadith I quote is a favorable reference to Christ?
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    And Talmudic? Where do you find Talmud in this post? I quote Genesis 28, but Genesis is Torah, not Talmud.

  3. Marshall Massey:

    The traditional Quaker position, Charles, is that the Descent of the Paraklete *was* the Second Coming, and that Christ, being one with the Paraklete, has been present here on Earth ever since, teaching whoever will listen.

  4. Ken Hoop:

    Of course there are no criticisms of Christ or Christians in the OT; otherwise Marcion would have had a much easier time building his case. They are found in the Talmud and related Jewish lore.