Thucydides Roundtable Book III: The Most Violent Man at Athens
…..Our mistake has been to distinguish the Mitylenians as we have done: had they been long ago treated like the rest, they never would have so far forgotten themselves, human nature being as surely made arrogant by consideration as it is awed by firmness. Let them now therefore be punished as their crime requires, and do not, while you condemn the aristocracy, absolve the people. This is certain, that all attacked you without distinction, although they might have come over to us and been now again in possession of their city. But no, they thought it safer to throw in their lot with the aristocracy and so joined their rebellion! Consider therefore: if you subject to the same punishment the ally who is forced to rebel by the enemy, and him who does so by his own free choice, which of them, think you, is there that will not rebel upon the slightest pretext; when the reward of success is freedom, and the penalty of failure nothing so very terrible? We meanwhile shall have to risk our money and our lives against one state after another; and if successful, shall receive a ruined town from which we can no longer draw the revenue upon which our strength depends; while if unsuccessful, we shall have an enemy the more upon our hands, and shall spend the time that might be employed in combating our existing foes in warring with our own allies.
“No hope, therefore, that rhetoric may instil or money purchase, of the mercy due to human infirmity must be held out to the Mitylenians. Their offence was not involuntary, but of malice and deliberate; and mercy is only for unwilling offenders. I therefore, now as before, persist against your reversing your first decision, or giving way to the three failings most fatal to empire—pity, sentiment, and indulgence. [….] Punish them as they deserve, and teach your other allies by a striking example that the penalty of rebellion is death. Let them once understand this and you will not have so often to neglect your enemies while you are fighting with your own confederates.”
It had been Cleon, of course, who had originally moved that Athens should punish rebellious Mytilene by putting all of its citizens to death and subsequently spoke against reversing that decree. He failed but only by a slender chance of a speedy messenger was the massacre averted.
War tends to throw up into posterity characters ill-suited for a successful life in times of peace. And when in times of peace they tend to plot and agitate for war and civil disorder. The anti-Nazi journalist Konrad Heiden called them “armed intellectuals” and their more violent cousins “armed bohemians”; Eric Hoffer, author of The True Believer developed a similar typology, “fanatics” and “practical men of action”. Cleon was such a man, I believe, and his constant incitement and advocacy of the severest measures corrupted the Athenian democracy and changed its character to mistake cruelty for strength and reckless aggression for courage. Worse, this acted in tandem with the Spartans, of whom it must be said they were the first and not the Athenians to deviate from traditional Greek customs of restrained warfare against fellow Greeks and make casual massacre and atrocity a war policy.
An escalatory dynamic that made the Peloponnesian War unprecedented in scale and barbarism for the Hellenic world.
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Neville Morley:
November 3rd, 2016 at 7:58 am
I’ve recently blogged in defence of Cleon, in the context of recent analogies with Trump (https://thesphinxblog.com/2016/10/24/cleon-and-the-lying-media/), so I’ll try to keep this relatively short. Critical question is whether we can take Thucydides’ depiction at face value; everything you say is spot on about Cleon’s role in this narrative – but if we take a step back and ponder possible discrepancies between T’s account and reality, it’s easy to see how the character of Cleon is being used to further implicit arguments about Athenian imperialism and decline, the weaknesses of democracy etc. He’s a convenient scapegoat.
zen:
November 4th, 2016 at 4:28 am
Hi Neville
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You have an excellent counterpoint and I want to draw readers attention to your post, which I will do shortly.
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My caveats would be that Cleon is one of the personages who gives us confirmation from other texts. If Thucydides disliked him and held him up as an example of democracy run riot (and I think it is reasonable to say Thucydides was if not an active partisan of Pericles’ regime, at least a strong admirer and apologist) Aristophanes really had it in for him. Cleon must have been quite polarizing as a politician to have left such a memory in Athens. It isn’t all radical democracy either as Aristophanes also takes Socrates to task in his plays and Socrates was no democrat.
Neville Morley:
November 4th, 2016 at 7:55 am
Well, Aristophanes was prepared to lampoon absolutely anyone (he was, after all, a member of Socrates’ social circle, but criticised him for undermining morals and tradition nevertheless) – and, as with Thucydides, there is suspicion that their loathing of Cleon was personally motivated.
I think it’s entirely reasonable to see Cleon as a brilliant, manipulative speaker who pushes an aggressive foreign policy; it’s less obvious that he was very different from Pericles except in style, and in a more overt (and genuine?) commitment to democracy – and what worries me about the conventional reading of him as vicious, unscrupulous, corrupt etc. is that this then becomes grounds for a critique of democracy for falling for such a charlatan.
Neville Morley:
November 4th, 2016 at 7:57 am
So, yes, undoubtedly polarising – but exactly the same can be said of Pericles, on the basis of the discreditable anecdotes recorded in Plutarch and other sources. It is solely Thucydides who pushes us to imagine that there’s a radical change after Pericles’ death.
John Winterton:
November 4th, 2016 at 10:22 am
The idea that Thucydides’s dislike of Cleon was personally motivated presumably derives from Marcellinus’ Life of Thucydides. One should, of course, bear in mind (a) that Marcellinus was writing many centuries after Thucydides (about as long after him as we are from Chaucer?), and (b) that Greek biography has a notorious tendency to create fictitious biographical detail on the basis of statements in a subject’s own writings – Diogenes Laertius, for example, is full of such examples, where sayings or doctrines of Greek philosophers are transmuted into events in their lives (or deaths). This is not to say that there is definitely no truth in the story, but rather that we should be very wary about accepting it.